Season 5, Episode 10 | Kirsten Oates

In this episode of The Next Class, Rob Birdsell and Kent Hickey sit down with spiritual leadership coach Kirsten Oates. With a background spanning law, consulting, and executive strategy at the Center for Action and Contemplation, Kirsten brings a unique blend of intellect and introspection. She shares how mysticism offers not just personal transformation, but practical, grounded tools for school leaders and educators navigating today’s complex educational landscape. From honoring the inner lives of teachers to integrating contemplative practice into leadership, Kirsten's insights offer a rare look at what it means to lead with depth, humility, and purpose.